Whistler Back 9 Notes

#10 – Par 3.  Ignore the elevation.  This hole plays 118 with full backspin shots and no wind.  The wind effect is about %60-70 (yds) of listed mph.  So if you are hitting into a 10 mph wind, play it 123.  Short and right seems to be a straighter putt, but hit it as close as you can.

#11 – Par 4.  If playing upwind, hit your drive full topspin (otherwise full bs).  The roll should get you into pitching wedge range.  Left and long are a no-no on this approach.  Those putts are unreadable and incredibly fast down the hill.  Play your shot to about 1/2 – 1 yd below the hole.  You want enough spin to stop the ball on impact, no more no less.  If you get above the hole, you must use your chip to read the break.  The chip reading is close.

#12 – Par 4.  This hole looks wide open off the tee.  It would also appear to slope left to right (true).  However, for some reason this game will send your ball up to the woody sand to the left if you find that cart path on the left side.  Don’t flirt with it just to gain a few feet in elevation.  The approach from the fairway is to a pin that is nestled about 1 yard from the top of an amphitheater shaped green.  The elevation change from 2 yds behind the hole to 4 yards in front is a good foot.  Adjust for wind and elevation and add 1 yard to your approach.  Take the pin out so you don’t hit it.  Land the ball 1 yard beyond the hole and it should stay up there.  Shots of equal distance that venture left will funnel back to the hole.  Short ones will roll 3-4 yards back down in front leaving you at 12 footer that goods 7 inches up hill (relatively straight).  A birdie is a good score given the extremities around the pin.

#13 – Par 4.  Hit your drive full BS unless there is a lot of wind in your face.  From there its wedge play.  Green is fairly flat by this courses standards, but 6 footers are still a lot of work.  Play your wedge full or punch as appropriate.  Minimize the spin to 0-2 yds of roll if possible.  Very straight forward.  Measure the distance correctly, ding your wedge and putt and its an easy birdie.

#14 – P4.  Drive over the top of any trees.  You’ll leave around 50-70 yards.  Punch it if you get gapped.  Aim a little right of the flag and the ball will trickle left to the hole.  Ding it or close.  Too far left is a mess.  Concentrate on the approach and you’ll make birdie.

#15 – P4.  Hit your drive over the tree and depending on the wind, it will feed 20-50 yard range.  From here you’ll be hitting to a target several feet below you.  This distance elevation change 50yd/7ft is pretty rare in the game.  Do not play it more than 1 yd shorter than a flat shot.  If you are hitting a 64 degree wedge, you certainly won’t get a 45 degree rise/run rate.  REMEMBER THAT!  The elevation drop is almost nil due to extra spin effect.  This green is flat for this course, you must make birdie here.

#16 – P3.  Simple hole.  Adjust for wind, tee and elevation, aim and hit.  However, the hole is easier than that.  If you miss right of the flag by 2-6 yards the ball will kick back to the flag for a very make-able putt.  If you miss left, no breaks.  Aim a little right of the flag and you increase your margin for error.  Get the distance right.  Birdie this hole.

#17 – P4.  Play the elevation change on your drive as about 1 yd/2 feet of drop.  Take some off if you like fairway.  If you gun it up the the 30/40% stuff its really just a 100 yd cleveland wedge shot, full bs.  So, no biggie.  For most people, they need fairway and spin control is a plus on this hole.  This pin placement is full of nastiness.  What you want is for the ball to land on the hill left of the flag and feed across it to the right.  Right of the pin, pin high is almost a straight 7 footer.  That is likely the easiest putt you can hope for.  It is entirely possible to get a 3 footer than gives you no better than 50% chance.  Ultimately, a little short and right is the target here.

#18 – P5.  This is an eagle hole if, you have an R11, Rocketballz or G20 3 wood.  Otherwise, lay your drive comfortably back or carry the deep stuff if you can drive that far.  The drive is the key here.  The fairway says you have 305 from the back tees.  The elevation makes this play about 280-285 with no wind.  To make matters worse, you’ll get a friendly forward kick into the deep rough if you carry 290 or so.  With no wind and premium distance balls, you should not hit your drive more than 95% here from the championship tees with the longer drivers.  You do want to get as close to the rough as possible though.  250 and in with the listed 3Ws gets you a very good shot at an eagle putt and a certain birdie.  With the 3W aim to the left edge of the neck of the fairway to the green.  The ball will certainly feed right quite a ways.  Right is flat.  If you measure your distance correctly you’ll have a make-able shot at eagle.


RSG #9 – Getting out of “The Pit”

The lone pin position on this hole dictates that you learn this shot.  A flop of exactly the measured distance will work as well.  Make sure you aim the flop correctly.  Willsstrs demonstrates the topspin chip method:

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Oakmont Notes

  1. Play a shorter distance on approach than stated. It is downhill and landing on a downslope. Take a par and RUN!!!!
  2. STAY BELOW THE HOLE especially on the back pin. Some of the breaks are crazy, so even though you may be hitting wedges in, this is not a reliable birdie hole
  3. Hit the fairway. On approach, play it 2-3 yds longer than the stated yardage. The added roll will almost cancel out the uphill.
  4. Plan this hole before you play it. It is a birdie hole but 1 misstep will lead to a bogey or worse. It is possible to go straight at the green off the tee but BE CAREFUL! OB runs through the middle of the 5th fairway so make sure you hit the left side!
  5. Play your approach right of the flag. It will feed down towards the hole. The green slopes hard so make sure you are hole high to get a straight putt.
  6. Play right of the flag, but not too far or you are looking at a sure bogey. Not the toughest green on the course, so birdie is possible.
  7. Make sure you hit the fairway at all costs. Make sure you hit the green at all costs, and for the left pin, make sure you hit the green & right of the pin!
  8. This hole’s distance may seem intimidating, but if you concentrate and hit the ding with good aim, you can birdie easily. Why?  Because it is the easiest green on the course.
  9. Hit the fairway. If you do not feel that you can stay below the hole on approach, then don’t be afraid to lay up. Take a par and RUN! A bogey here is not too bad either.
  10. Hit the fairway, hit the green, stay below the hole. If you play this hole well, a birdie is very possible.
  11. Be sure to stay in the fairway. Unless you can reach the green, going over the ditch is not much of an advantage.
  12. Play your approach well short and left of the pin. The green will feed the ball towards the pin. This goes for both pins.
  13. If you have decent clubs and you hit a backspin shot, the ball will come back. Fly just past the hole, and you are fine. Make sure your speed here is precise because a downhiller here is scary.
  14. Take a birdie. Unless you hit an iron off the tee, you will hit a wedge into the green, so it is get-able.
  15. If you hit the fairway, you are all set. This is my personal favorite approach in the game due to the level of precision needed to get a birdie, and how you can throw darts at the front flag. Anything can and will happen here.
  16. Take your time to calculate your distance here. A sloping green makes birdies hard but a large green makes bogeys rare. Take a par here.
  17. Make sure you can fly the bunkers if you go for it. If not, make sure to not run through the fairway on your lay up. Whichever way you play it, make a birdie and head to 18.
  18. Play your approach slightly left of the hole and it will feed towards it. Get close and it is easy putting. If you don’t, you might as well be at cedar point! Take a par and be glad you have survived your round at Oakmont!

Bethpage notes


This was the second WGT course. Flat greens, slim fairways, and thick rough make this parkland course what it is.

Hole by hole:

1.) Cut the corner if you want. The approach is 4 yds longer than advertised to the back pin

2.) Draw it around the tree if you can. This is a birdie hole.

3.) nothing tough about this hole, it is a simple par 3. Just don’t miss on the short side.

4.) Plan this hole well or you will pay the price. Fly the bunker if you can off the tee. It is impossible to hit this green in two unless you hit the space in front of the green on the tounge of the bunker. Lay up to your favorite yardage and wedge it to death.

5.) Tough par 4. Make sure you fly the bunker off the tee. Then you can try for the green if you have a good angle. If you don’t, don’t be afraid to lay up.

6.) A definite birdie hole. Only experience can tell you how far to cut the corner. The green is flat, so if you hit a good wedge shot you should be able to make the birdie.

7.) Do whatever you can to make a par. Never mess with a front right pin. If you have to lay up, make sure you hit the fairway. This is the hardest hole on the course from the back tees. Find a way to make par and move on!

8.) Make sure you do not leave yourself on the wrong tier. Other than that it is a birdie hole.

9.) only take on the bunker if you can. Play your second shot to the middle of the green. Don’t get too greedy.

10.) Hit the fairway at all costs. If you don’t you can’t lay up any closer than 80 yds, making it tough. The green slopes from back to front so stay below the hole.

11.) Take your chance of birdie

12.) The approach plays a bit longer than it says. Hit the fairway and you are fine.

13.) Birdie this hole. If you don’t you are giving up shots. Stay below the hole on approach.

14.) Stay below the hole (short). It is tough to birdie so don’t be fed up with par.

15.) On the common front left pin, land the ball left of the pin and watch the ball feed back towards the hole. Birdies are common, but so are bogeys and doubles. See Video:

16.) Hit the fairway at all costs. The approach plays 3 yards longer than it says.

17.) Stay on the right tier. The ridge goes right through the middle of the green.

18.) Do whatever you can to hit the fairway. It is not long, so don’t be afraid to hit 3 wd. stay below the hole, and you will make birdie very often. One of the more famous finishing holes in golf.